Hilo anti motos VI Auténticas alternativas lonchafinistas a las motos

TAMBOR el conejo dijo:

¿tiene usted alguna fuente externa de que la vida útil de una 4T de 250 cc sean 35.000 km?

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AYN RANDiano2 dijo:

Se las he aportado ya: Es el kilometraje máximo de las motos 4T con más Km que aparecen en autoscout.

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martillohidraulico dijo:

A mi la verdad es que me parecen bastante interesantes estos hilos, me da la impresion que es un discurso algo sesgado en algunas ocasiones pero hay algunos datos que me han parecido la mar de interesantes como el tema de la contaminacion.

AynRandiano cuenta, que piensas de las bicicletas? Al fin y al cabo la postura es igual que las motos... De hecho las motos adoptan su forma apartir de las bicicletas motorizadas. Y de las bicicletas con motor electrico? Sigue sin haber contaminacion pero ya se convierten en un problema de seguridad al alcanzar velocidades ya mas respetables

Respecto a la ergonomia de cara al movimiento mecanico impulsado por pierna el concepto bicicleta comun es el mas optimo, podemos encontrar bicicletas en las que se va tumbado pero es imposible subir ciertas pendientes con ellas... .

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Wallebot dijo:

Tambien me interesaria un analisis sobre las bicis, como te piden muchos

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AYN RANDiano2 dijo:

Es muy sencillo:

* Por Km recorrido las bicis son LA MITAD de peligrosas que las motos, ergo son demasiado peligrosas.

* Si alguien quiere ir en bici el consejo es muy simple: JAMÁS COMPARTA VÍA con vehículos a motor, vaya a velocidad moderada y lleve casco.​

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El ciclismo como tras*porte urbano no es peligroso. En todo el año 2010 murieron 18 personas en bici en las ciudades en toda España. Para poner un ejemplo, en España mueren unas 20 personas en coches en un fin de semana.

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AYN RANDiano2 dijo:

¿Cuántos Km hacen los coches y cuántos Km las bicis de ciudad?.

Podemos por la misma decir que las alas tipo Bultó son lo más seguro que hay, ya que sólo mueren 2 o 3 personas al año llevándolas...

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AYN RANDiano2 dijo:

¿Cuántos Km hacen los coches y cuántos Km las bicis de ciudad?.

Podemos por la misma decir que las alas tipo Bultó son lo más seguro que hay, ya que sólo mueren 2 o 3 personas al año llevándolas...

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(Reuters) - Yanking a bicycle from the docking station outside New York's Grand Central Terminal, a helmetless rider slung a golf bag full of clubs over his shoulder and, along with another rider wearing headphones but no helmet, merged into rush hour traffic.

Against all odds - including novice riders, refusal to wear bike helmets and the daily crush of weaving, horn-blaring traffic - not a single rider in New York City's bike share program has been killed since it launched in May 2013, a Citi Bike representative said.

In fact, experts say no fatalities have been logged in any U.S. public bike share program since the first one launched in Tulsa, Oklahoma, in 2007. There are now programs in 36 cities, including Chicago, Minneapolis and San Francisco, with new services planned in Tampa, Florida, Boise, Idaho, Portland, Oregon, and elsewhere.

While there is no central reporting clearinghouse for bike share fatalities, the safety record was confirmed by three alternative tras*portation experts: Susan Shaheen, co-director of the University of California at Berkeley's tras*portation Sustainability Research Center; Russell Meddin, founder of the Bike-sharing World Map; and Paul DeMaio, founder of MetroBike, the nation's oldest bike-share consultancy.

When New York's program, sponsored by Citibank, was launched in May 2013, critics and late-night television hosts shared dire predictions for riders, some of whom were only then learning to ride.

At the time, then-city Comptroller John Liu called for mandatory bike helmets for adults to lessen "the human toll" but failed in his effort. "The Daily Show" host Jon Stewart joked that the bike share program sparked a new business idea called "Jon Stewart's Street Brain Removal Service."

But no one has been killed and only 40 people have been hurt and required medical attention after 10.3 million rides, a Citi Bike representative said.

"It's like pedaling a tank," said Thomas Brereton, 53, an accountant from suburban Westchester County who rides a Citi Bike from the Manhattan train station to his Brooklyn office.

That is precisely why bike share riders across the United States remain safe - even after 23 million rides since 2007 through city streets where taxis screech into bike lanes to pick up passengers and texting pedestrians step obliviously into bikeways, experts say.

"The bikes are heavy, with a very low center of gravity, wide tires, drum brakes that keep the braking system dry even in inclement weather, and the bikes are geared so it is difficult to gain considerable speed," Shaheen said.

'PHENOMENAL'

That safety net has not extended to other cyclists. In New York, there were 18 bike fatalities in 2012, 12 in 2013, and 12 so far this year, said a city Department of tras*portation spokeswoman.

Even the accident rate in the bike share program is impressive, with about 10.5 crashes with or without injury per 1 million trips, Meddin said.

"I believe that to be a phenomenal safety record and, coupled with the no U.S.A. fatalities, bike share has a better record than bicycling," Meddin said.

Still, cities with bike share programs have a higher proportion of head injuries among bicycle-related injuries than cities without such programs, according to a recent study published in the American Journal of Public Health.

While New York and many other cities don't provide helmets, some bike share programs are moving to change that, including Boston, which has had helmet vending machines since 2013.

Less healthy than Citi Bike's safety record is its finances, with the number of annual memberships dropping from 105,359 in May to 96,318 in June, said a Citi Bike representative, who said July figures were expected to be similar.

Negotiations are under way for a takeover by a new operator, REQX Ventures, with plans to expand further into Manhattan and Brooklyn, as well as into Queens, while boosting the $95 yearly membership fee to $140 or more, according to the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times. Citi Bike, REQX Ventures and the city declined to comment.

Both Brereton, the bike-riding accountant, and fellow Citi Bike member Adam Price, a clinical psychologist who regularly rides from Manhattan's Penn Station to his office near Gramercy Park, said they would willingly pay the higher annual fee, which would still cost less than a two-month weekday subway commute.

Safety has not necessarily bred civility among riders of the popular bike share program on New York City's miccionan streets.

"I've had a few races to the last bike on the rack, and it brought out an aggressiveness in me that is not usually there," said Price, 53, of Maplewood, New Jersey.

"One rider who beat me to a bike apologized and told me where the nearest alternative station was. When I beat a different rider to a bike, I apologized - but he swore at me," he said.

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Every day 1.2 million kilometres (0.75 million miles) are cycled in Copenhagen, with 36% of all citizens commuting to work, school or university by bicycle; ...

Over all there were 92 cyclists involved serious injury and 3 deaths in 2010, down from 252 incidents in 1996

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That safety net has not extended to other cyclists.

In New York, there were 18 bike fatalities in 2012, 12 in 2013, and 12 so far this year

After 23 million rides, no deaths in U.S. bike share programs | Reuters

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AYN RANDiano2 dijo:

De su fuente:



Puedo coger al amiguete de Bultó que (aún) no se ha apiolado y decir que las alas de ardilla tiene un 100% de seguridad basándome sólo en su historial.

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Every day 1.2 million kilometres (0.75 million miles) are cycled in Copenhagen, with 36% of all citizens commuting to work, school or university by bicycle; ...

Over all there were 92 cyclists involved serious injury and 3 deaths in 2010, down from 252 incidents in 1996

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AYN RANDiano2 dijo:

De su fuente:



Puedo coger al amiguete de Bultó que (aún) no se ha apiolado y decir que las alas de ardilla tiene un 100% de seguridad basándome sólo en su historial.

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kuzumoto dijo:

Lo de "pseudo alternativa" se lo puedes contar a un conocido que le ha hecho 1000kms en un mes aquí en Granada y se va a ahorrar 1500€ de gasofa al año (carga en el curro), tarda 1/3 que antes con el coche y está encantado de la vida.

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kuzumoto dijo:

Lo de "pseudo alternativa" se lo puedes contar a un conocido que le ha hecho 1000kms en un mes aquí en Granada y se va a ahorrar 1500€ de gasofa al año (carga en el curro), tarda 1/3 que antes con el coche y está encantado de la vida.

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