Hilo oficial del Bitcoin (III)

We glad to inform you that from now we accept Internationa wire tras*fers from US citizens from US banks #btce

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muyuu dijo:

Estamos viendo un patrón similar al de Mayo 2012 en adelante.

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Kennedy dijo:

Tremendo el patrón que muestras en ambas gráficas, muyuu!!!

Si se mantiene el patrón, tendríamos un septiembre lateral, con una subida alocada de tres meses hasta los 2.000 USD/BTC... Para luego caer hasta los 400... Y estabilizarse en los 1.000...

No sería de extrañar que esa subida alocada tuviese que ver con el dúo eBay-bitcoin...

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muyuu dijo:

Los de eBay son Paypal... de momento soy escéptico respecto a un impulso importante del BTC por parte de esa gente.

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(*) Regulación que yo NO PIDO sino que AVISO que existirá forzosamente o NO HABRA NEGOCIOS.

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muyuu dijo:

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A todo esto llegamos al lunes con precios similares a los del viernes.

La resistencia moderada sigue en torno a 62-63 y la fuerte en torno a 50.

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Gobbo dijo:

Nico:
Muchas gracias por las explicaciones.

En la lisra del corralito te faltan los que están esperando a que bitcoin-24 les devuelva el dinero.

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Rajoy dijo:

De verdad que es acojonante el nivel de desinformación de las aportaciones de algunos trolls. Yo puedo hablar en primera persona porque fuí una de las víctimas del affaire bitcoin-24 (como podréis comprobar si repasáis mis mensajes anteriores). Me engancharon unos miles de euros en la cuenta del Commerzbank. Pero no fué el amigo Simón Hausdorf el que me congeló mis euros en esa cuenta durante semanas, fué la connivencia entre el organismo alemán correspondiente, la "justicia" alemana y el Commerzbank.
La prueba es que tras unas cuantas semanas y sin que yo iniciara ninguna acción judicial, en cuanto pudo descongelar los fondos de esa cuenta, me fué devuelto hasta el último euro.
Son los poderes políticos y financieros los que embargan y roban. Harías bien en no olvidarlo, querido bobo, o cualquier día vas a ser tu el expoliado ...

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welcome back. bitcoin a virtual currency that continues to grab real headlines. last month it garnered unwanted attention. new york state's top banking regulator issuing more than 20 subpoenas to bitcoin businesses due to concerns about the black market use of bitcoins. today it's back in the news. the federal election commission is nearing a decision to allow bitcoins as campaign donations. governor, how would this work given it can fluctuate in value? well, the fluctuation in value is not an enormous problem if they spent the money in a timely way. you can make some regulations about that so that that shouldn't be the problem. the problem, concern -- i would love to hear what david has to say about this, the potential for laundering money this way. that is something new york state is looking into. what i'd mostly be concerned about is using bitcoin as a way to get foreign money into american campaigns which is against the law. i'm generally in fave vosh of bitcoins. i think it's -- this is an at stemt by the fec to get ahead of the curve. i want to be really careful we don't make what's already a pretty shaky campaign finance regulation thanks to the supreme court even more shaky. that's a great point. david, how do you respond to that? you think it's a good thing, right? i think governor dean brings up a good point. there's a real place for this. especially the real problems are the soft money loopholes. if you wanted to distort politics, that's how you'd turn. i think bit coin is just impractical for large-scale manipulations. the only real practical effect is to allow small individual contributors who frankly feel disenfranchised by the current system. i think there's a place for politics as well. this is a good thing to get more people to contribute on small donations. i completely agree this has to be done in a way that anticipates the problems and resolves around them. you think the election commission is doing this because they see this as a real possibility, that this is going to happen in time? i don't know why they're doing it. i was very, very surprised to be honest to get the call of the producer of this show to come on and talk about this so soon. i do believe bitcoins have come a long way in a short period of time. there's going to be fallout. there's fallout for the traditional currencies when people try to corner the market in various krern sees which they've done taking a run at the malaysian ring and things like that. so it's not unreasonable to suspect that at some time somebody is going to figure out how to manipulate this market and drive it in certain directions. market manipulation isn't so much the issue. i would say trying to understand how this sort of impacts the ability for new donors to come to the market who currently feel that, due to sort of buying with a traceable currency, that that puts them on sort of a list for contributing and expressing their political affiliation. i think this is the age-old dilemma is, is campaign contribution as corrupting influence or a constitutionally protected free speech? it is definitely a complex issue. the question i have based on what you just said, you really aren't supposed to be able to conceal who you are under the minimum campaign finance laws we have left after citizens united basically shredded all that. does this miccionan there's going to be less tras*parency if we use bitkoins and people can go on and make minimum contributions? some would argue that's a good thing. i think the key goal is to keep large amounts of distorting money out but encouraging small donors, even in a small way is anonymous support. i've got real problems with anonymous donors. let's talk about that for a second, governor. david, you have donated to president obama's campaign. would you do that using bitcoin? i think the goal of this isn't so much to enable people who are open about their affiliations, but recognizing that some people feel uncomfortable. i understand that even if not -- our goal isn't necessarily to do this just because we support it. it's about supporting those people who can't really support themselves. we asked david if he would contribute in bitcoin. if you were still running, if you were running this fall, would you be accepting bitcoin? oh, sure. are you kidding? this is an invention of 23-year-olds. 23-year-olds came of age in our campaign. it was the first campaign of this new generation. of course we'd try to figure it out. i would be very uncomfortable taking a lot of anonymous donations. the reason you don't want to make donations anonymously, i think it's fair for the public to know who is backing candidates. my great antiestéticar is actually that the koch brothers would figure out how to give tons of money anonymously and that's the perversion of the system. that's the real concern right now. that's where our echl fa sis would be, is identifying and preventing this activity while allowing small, individual donations. we'll leave it there. great analysis. thanks so much.

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