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c0m7t dijo:
"polimorfismos" / SNPs = variantes

gen = conjunto de variantes

cada variante tiene sus respectivos alelos



tienen razón los de tellmegen, es imposible saber con solamente tu adn de quien has heredado cada alelo, solo se puede saber que lo tienes. Para saber de que progenitor has heredado tu genotipo, tendrías que analizar a tus padres y que estos fuesen homozigoticos cada uno (mismos dos alelos) para saber con certeza de quien lo has cogido.
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Pues grandísima frutada, la verdad. Porque me lleva obsesionando años de dónde me viene este marasmo mental. Sólo puedo imaginarlo.

Pero le agradezco mucho lo que ha escrito, porque me ayuda a entender resultados que, para mí, si no me los traducen son como el mandarín.
 
Dejo aquí respuesta detallada de Tellmegen para guía de los foreros y me marcho discretamente del hilo:

"¿Cuánto contribuye la genética al TB? El riesgo atribuible a la genética o heredabilidad del TB es cercano al 80%. Esto significa que la genética tiene una elevada contribución a la enfermedad en comparación otros factores de riesgo del TB, como puede ser por ejemplo el consumo de fármacos, como los corticoides que pueden desencadenar episodios en individuos susceptibles. La retirada de la medicación también puede ser una causa de recaída en pacientes con TB. Los hijos tienen un 10% de probabilidades de heredar la enfermedad. Este valor se eleva al 40% si ambos progenitores están afectados. Sin embargo, aunque la heredabilidad del TB está bien descrita, los estudios llevados a cabo demuestran que el factor genético está determinado por gran cantidad de genes que no se conocen por completo.

En tellmeGen basamos nuestro análisis en el estudio GWAS llevado a cabo por Mullinset al. (2021) en más de 413,000 personas y que identificó 63 genes asociados con el trastorno bipolar. Muchos de estos genes se expresan específicamente en neuronas de muchas regiones cerebrales, como el hipocampo, al igual que ocurre con otros trastornos mentales como la esquizofrenia y el trastorno depresivo mayor. Además, se observó que parte de los genes implicados en el TB también participan en rasgos como los trastornos del sueño, el consumo problemático de alcohol y el tabaquismo, lo que sugiere que existe un mecanismo biológico
compartido entre esos rasgos y el TB. Los resultados obtenidos se detallan a continuación.

De acuerdo con los marcadores medidos, tu predisposición genética al trastorno bipolar se estima que es alta. Esto significa que presentas más alelos de riesgo y menos protectores que el 99% de los usuarios de nuestra base de datos.

A pesar de que los estudios han determinado que el componente genético del trastorno bipolar tiene un peso elevado, la influencia de otros factores tanto ambientales como genéticos no medidos pueden modificar el riesgo final por lo que presentar un resultado de “riesgo alto” no implica que lo vayas a padecer. Por el momento, se necesitan estudios más profundos para elucidar este componente genético por completo y los mecanismos que subyacen al trastorno bipolar. A este respecto, por el momento, los estudios GWAS no están siendo utilizado en la práctica clínica, por tanto, no debes considerar estos resultados como diagnósticos".​
 
Estoy intentando hacer una calculadora para captar la ascendencia etniana, por el momento me ha salido esto:

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Solo en 4 comunidades españolas ha salido algo de etniano, eso significa que no voy por mal camino. Quizás haga falta una referencia con algo de menos estepa que la irlandesa para quienes tenemos menos.

Para la referencia etniana he usado una muestra de Roma Balkans individual, la más pura que he encontrado.

Código: 
Gypsy,0.087644,0.054839,-0.07203,0.026809,-0.026466,0.013666,-0.00094,0.004154,0.016771,0.017312,-0.002761,0.00015,0.002825,0.006193,-0.009093,-0.004243,0.003651,0.005068,0.000754,-0.002501,-0.001996,-0.002226,-0.001849,-0.001325,-0.003832
Basque_French,0.128051,0.152025,0.055173,0.012823,0.056411,0.00251,-0.00141,0.003323,0.030597,0.041204,-0.009272,0.010341,-0.020976,-0.014024,0.013219,-0.001936,-0.011917,0.003028,-0.000716,-0.004415,0.010157,0.002485,-0.00864,-0.00917,7.2e-05
jovenlandésccan_North,-0.029973,0.137322,-0.003038,-0.0674,0.028057,-0.031917,-0.024454,0.005051,0.060982,0.032732,0.005909,-0.006552,0.018591,-0.01471,0.01514,-0.010563,0.00126,-0.017983,-0.040747,0.009296,-0.012194,-0.03463,0.021438,-0.005576,0.004397
Greek_Thessaly,0.119135,0.145221,0.013702,-0.020026,0.018875,-0.005113,0.000548,0.000769,0,0.01877,0.002652,0.004096,-0.007284,0.005688,-0.009093,-0.004199,0.00213,-0.000549,0.004148,-0.005336,-0.006988,0.001278,0.003574,0.001406,-0.003353
Irish,0.133361,0.134098,0.061169,0.048864,0.037788,0.019352,0.003293,0.004713,0.003568,0.002927,-0.006971,0.00584,-0.014189,-0.014076,0.025935,0.005215,-0.011145,0.001894,0.000597,0.001776,0.005114,0.001279,0.000293,0.014407,0.000661

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2dedos dijo:
Estoy intentando hacer una calculadora para captar la ascendencia etniana, por el momento me ha salido esto:

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Solo en 4 comunidades españolas ha salido algo de etniano, eso significa que no voy por mal camino. Quizás haga falta una referencia con algo de menos estepa que la irlandesa para quienes tenemos menos.

Para la referencia etniana he usado una muestra de Roma Balkans individual, la más pura que he encontrado.

Código: 
Gypsy,0.087644,0.054839,-0.07203,0.026809,-0.026466,0.013666,-0.00094,0.004154,0.016771,0.017312,-0.002761,0.00015,0.002825,0.006193,-0.009093,-0.004243,0.003651,0.005068,0.000754,-0.002501,-0.001996,-0.002226,-0.001849,-0.001325,-0.003832
Basque_French,0.128051,0.152025,0.055173,0.012823,0.056411,0.00251,-0.00141,0.003323,0.030597,0.041204,-0.009272,0.010341,-0.020976,-0.014024,0.013219,-0.001936,-0.011917,0.003028,-0.000716,-0.004415,0.010157,0.002485,-0.00864,-0.00917,7.2e-05
jovenlandésccan_North,-0.029973,0.137322,-0.003038,-0.0674,0.028057,-0.031917,-0.024454,0.005051,0.060982,0.032732,0.005909,-0.006552,0.018591,-0.01471,0.01514,-0.010563,0.00126,-0.017983,-0.040747,0.009296,-0.012194,-0.03463,0.021438,-0.005576,0.004397
Greek_Thessaly,0.119135,0.145221,0.013702,-0.020026,0.018875,-0.005113,0.000548,0.000769,0,0.01877,0.002652,0.004096,-0.007284,0.005688,-0.009093,-0.004199,0.00213,-0.000549,0.004148,-0.005336,-0.006988,0.001278,0.003574,0.001406,-0.003353
Irish,0.133361,0.134098,0.061169,0.048864,0.037788,0.019352,0.003293,0.004713,0.003568,0.002927,-0.006971,0.00584,-0.014189,-0.014076,0.025935,0.005215,-0.011145,0.001894,0.000597,0.001776,0.005114,0.001279,0.000293,0.014407,0.000661

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mmmmmm interesante la tierra de @CUATERBAC tiene el etniano más alto, nada soprendente.

Por casualidad esa raw data es de Myheritage o 23adnme, creo que dijiste que era 23andme, bueno pssssssssssss, si tuvieras la de Ancestry DNA tengo curiosidad si te aumentaría el etniano-moruno o te lo bajaría y sobre la distancia esa es la clave, distancia.

De todos modos no estoy de acuerdo que los etnianos de los balcanes sean los más puros, para nada, de hecho están bastante mezclados, teniendo en cuenta que eres de origen extremeño en Barcelona creo que deberías usar estas coordenadas de etnianillos. Piensa que un etnianillo en España se mezclo con moriscos, eso no paso con el de los balcanes que se mezclaron con los locales de allí.

Código: 
Roma_Barcelona,0.101112,0.099691,-0.007417,0.014158,0.011335,0.009296,0.000235,0.003115,0.018475,0.02612,-0.000704,0.002897,-0.008399,-0.002454,-0.002217,-0.004044,0.003846,-0.002154,-0.001027,2.1e-05,-0.000416,-0.001443,-0.00341,-0.006005,-4e-05
Roma_Granada,0.083518,0.073118,-0.046574,0.016271,-0.006347,0.012236,0.001146,0.005538,0.02104,0.020524,-0.000447,0.000618,-0.006039,0.002718,-0.007431,-0.005469,0.002265,-0.003294,-0.001901,0.000907,-0.001716,-0.001824,-0.001417,-0.002591,0.004086
Roma_Madrid,0.093563,0.088554,-0.031829,0.015569,0.004247,0.007697,0.005546,0.003831,0.016648,0.025185,0.003475,-0.00039,-0.005976,-0.001156,-0.000516,-0.00183,0.003312,0.000127,-0.000679,0.001351,0.001323,0.00319,0.004092,-0.000988,0.001197
Roma_Porto,0.088554,0.076774,-0.045481,0.020866,-0.005786,0.016231,0.002914,0.004661,0.015953,0.022962,-0.002923,0.003027,-0.007195,0.003688,-0.009663,-0.009573,0.000261,-0.001495,0,0.006678,-0.001722,-0.003734,0.001997,0.001639,-0.003257

Añádelo y fíjate en las distancias que te da.

Llamemos a @c0m7t @Boba Fet II a ver que les sale.
 
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Topollillo dijo:
No estoy de acuerdo que los etnianos de los balcanes sean los más puros, para nada, de hecho están bastante mezclados, teniendo en cuenta que eres de origen extremeño en Barcelona creo que deberías usar estas coordenadas de etnianillos. Piensa que un etnianillo en España se mezclaro con moriscos, eso no paso con el de los balcanes que se mezclaron con los locales de allí.

Código: 
Roma_Barcelona,0.101112,0.099691,-0.007417,0.014158,0.011335,0.009296,0.000235,0.003115,0.018475,0.02612,-0.000704,0.002897,-0.008399,-0.002454,-0.002217,-0.004044,0.003846,-0.002154,-0.001027,2.1e-05,-0.000416,-0.001443,-0.00341,-0.006005,-4e-05
Roma_Granada,0.083518,0.073118,-0.046574,0.016271,-0.006347,0.012236,0.001146,0.005538,0.02104,0.020524,-0.000447,0.000618,-0.006039,0.002718,-0.007431,-0.005469,0.002265,-0.003294,-0.001901,0.000907,-0.001716,-0.001824,-0.001417,-0.002591,0.004086
Roma_Madrid,0.093563,0.088554,-0.031829,0.015569,0.004247,0.007697,0.005546,0.003831,0.016648,0.025185,0.003475,-0.00039,-0.005976,-0.001156,-0.000516,-0.00183,0.003312,0.000127,-0.000679,0.001351,0.001323,0.00319,0.004092,-0.000988,0.001197
Roma_Porto,0.088554,0.076774,-0.045481,0.020866,-0.005786,0.016231,0.002914,0.004661,0.015953,0.022962,-0.002923,0.003027,-0.007195,0.003688,-0.009663,-0.009573,0.000261,-0.001495,0,0.006678,-0.001722,-0.003734,0.001997,0.001639,-0.003257

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Y con neցros.Yo he visto etnianos con claros rasgos neցroides que muy raro ver en personas hindues o en etnianos mas puros.
 
Boba Fet II dijo:
Y con neցros.Yo he visto etnianos con claros rasgos neցroides que muy raro ver en personas hindues o en etnianos mas puros.
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Exacto, los etnianos se juntan en las zonas con más lumpen, donde se juntan hay roce, si hay roce se mezclan. Pero vamos a obviarlo es una calculadora para detectar ancestros etnianos.
 
Boba Fet II no quiere contarnos nada, parece que sus resultados no fueron satisfactorios.
 
Topollillo dijo:
mmmmmm interesante la tierra de @CUATERBAC tiene el etniano más alto, nada soprendente.

Por casualidad esa raw data es de Myheritage o 23adnme, creo que dijiste que era 23andme, bueno pssssssssssss, si tuvieras la de Ancestry DNA tengo curiosidad si te aumentaría el etniano-moruno o te lo bajaría y sobre la distancia esa es la clave, distancia.

De todos modos no estoy de acuerdo que los etnianos de los balcanes sean los más puros, para nada, de hecho están bastante mezclados, teniendo en cuenta que eres de origen extremeño en Barcelona creo que deberías usar estas coordenadas de etnianillos. Piensa que un etnianillo en España se mezclo con moriscos, eso no paso con el de los balcanes que se mezclaron con los locales de allí.

Código: 
Roma_Barcelona,0.101112,0.099691,-0.007417,0.014158,0.011335,0.009296,0.000235,0.003115,0.018475,0.02612,-0.000704,0.002897,-0.008399,-0.002454,-0.002217,-0.004044,0.003846,-0.002154,-0.001027,2.1e-05,-0.000416,-0.001443,-0.00341,-0.006005,-4e-05
Roma_Granada,0.083518,0.073118,-0.046574,0.016271,-0.006347,0.012236,0.001146,0.005538,0.02104,0.020524,-0.000447,0.000618,-0.006039,0.002718,-0.007431,-0.005469,0.002265,-0.003294,-0.001901,0.000907,-0.001716,-0.001824,-0.001417,-0.002591,0.004086
Roma_Madrid,0.093563,0.088554,-0.031829,0.015569,0.004247,0.007697,0.005546,0.003831,0.016648,0.025185,0.003475,-0.00039,-0.005976,-0.001156,-0.000516,-0.00183,0.003312,0.000127,-0.000679,0.001351,0.001323,0.00319,0.004092,-0.000988,0.001197
Roma_Porto,0.088554,0.076774,-0.045481,0.020866,-0.005786,0.016231,0.002914,0.004661,0.015953,0.022962,-0.002923,0.003027,-0.007195,0.003688,-0.009663,-0.009573,0.000261,-0.001495,0,0.006678,-0.001722,-0.003734,0.001997,0.001639,-0.003257

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Llamemos a @c0m7t @Boba Fet II a ver que les sale.
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La idea era añadir un etniano sin mezcla española o portuguesa, todos esos lo tienen incluso una muestra de Roma_Madrid no es etniano al menos genéticamente.

Target: Roma_Madrid:G32
Distance: 3.6285% / 0.03628486
56.8TUR_Barcin_N
26.8Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
13.0WHG
3.4MAR_Taforalt

Es menos etniano que yo literal.
 
Paletik Paletov Pasha dijo:
¿Como hago para saber los míos @Topollillo?
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Hacerte un test de adn de ancestros, elige el que quieras MyHeritage, 23andMe o Ancestry DNA, luego descargas tu raw data y lo subes a Illustrative DNA, luego descargas tus coordenadas g25 y vuelves a este hilo y preguntas, te mostraremos las coordenadas g25 con las que podrás compararte y conocer a fondo tus orígenes.
 
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