si mañana empezase la IIIWW y te obligan a ir al frente que harías???

34Pepe dijo:

"Te imaginas que hay una guerra....y no va nadie"

Frase hippy de mi infancia

Siendo más realista, nadie escapa a la maquinaria del Estado. Controles en estaciones, aeropuertos, carreteras, redadas, chivatazos...todo el mundo es reclutado. Recuerda los caballero caballero con el confinamiento

La única solución es seguir el rollo hasta tener un arma en la mano y unirte con 4 como tú, gente decidida

Puedes salir armado, en grupo, del cuartel

Si te vas a casa tienes las horas contadas. Os vais todos al Ayuntamiento tomáis el poder y visitáis a los caballero caballero para que se sumen o se desarmen. Controles propios de autodefensa en tu ciudad y prepárate para la reacción o esperar que otros regimientos se sumen. Al menos luchas por tus verdaderos intereses, no por la ralea que te envía

Otra alternativa es el rollo bolchevique en la l Guerra Mundial....llegar al frente y volver las armas contra tus mandos, seguir unidos y crear una columna en retirada para hacer lo mismo que desde el cuartel

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Esa es la tecnica, montar una guerra civil en España

mujertor dijo:

Esa es la tecnica, montar una guerra civil en España

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En la guerra civil también había reclutamientos

No es mas facil hacer como los que se negaron a ir a vietnam y demás?

Tails dijo:

En la guerra civil también había reclutamientos

No es mas facil hacer como los que se negaron a ir a vietnam y demás?

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En todos los ejércitos existen los Batallones de Castigo, donde envían a los desertores, presos, delincuentes, objetores si es ilegal la objeción...y son a los que envían a desactivar minas, limpiar cosa, recoger y enterrar cadáveres, descubiertas kamikazes...

Nunca he entendido como estos Batallones no se sublevaban....el miedo al poder, y el poder es brutal en tiempos de guerra

34Pepe dijo:

En todos los ejércitos existen los Batallones de Castigo, donde envían a los desertores, presos, delincuentes, objetores si es ilegal la objeción...y son a los que envían a desactivar minas, limpiar cosa, recoger y enterrar cadáveres, descubiertas kamikazes...

Nunca he entendido como estos Batallones no se sublevaban....el miedo al poder, y el poder es brutal en tiempos de guerra

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One of the earliest examples of penal military units was recorded in the Chinese annals Records of the Grand Historian and Book of Han. During the Han–Dayuan War, unhappy with the failure of General Li Guangli in an earlier expedition in 104 BC, Emperor Wu of Han promised amnesty and rewards to criminals, prisoners and bandits (赦囚徒捍寇盜) and dispatched a 60,000-strong army consisting of "bad boys" (惡少年) to attack the Greco-Bactrian kingdom of Dayuan in 102 BC.[1]

Dedicated penal units were first envisioned during the Napoleonic era of warfare, as large armies formed of conscripts often suffered from disciplinary problems.[2] Soldiers who refused to face the enemy were seen as detrimental to the cohesion of the army and as a disgrace to the nation. The formation of penal battalions was seen as a way of disciplining an army and keeping soldiers in line. In addition, many nations conscripted criminals into penal battalions in lieu of imprisoning or executing them during wartime to better utilize national manpower. Such military units were treated with little regard by the regular army and were often placed in compromising situations, such as being used in forlorn hope assaults.[2] The French Empire in particular was notable for employing penal military units during the wars of the coalition, especially during the later years of the conflicts as manpower became limited. The Régiment pénal de l'Île de Ré, formed in 1811 and composed almost entirely of criminals and other societal undesirables, would see action during the later years of the Napoleonic Wars.[3]

The disbandment of conscripted armies and end of large scale warfare ***owing the Napoleonic era led to the decline of the penal battalion system in continental Europe. However, the system continued in overseas colonies, again with the French as the primary employers of penal battalions. The Battalions of Light Infantry of Africa (Bats d'Af) was formed by order of Louis Philippe I in 1832 for the purpose of expanding the French colonial empire.[4] The Battalions fought in the French conquest of Algeria and during the Crimean War.[5] The French also employed the compagnies d'exclus ("companies of the excluded"), military units which were stationed at Aîn-Sefra in Southern Algeria. In contrast to the Bats d'Af, the compagnies d'exclus were outright penal units consisting of convicts condemned to five years or more of hard labor and judged unworthy to carry weapons.[6]

The various Italian unification conflicts saw the Redshirts recruiting convicts and revolutionaries from prisons into penal regiments known as Battaglioni degli imprigionati ("Battalions of the Imprisoned" or "Prisoners Battalion".)

Prior to the early 1900s, the Portuguese Empire relied largely on military convicts to augment the regular and indigenous troops employed to provide garrisons for its overseas colonies.

During World War I, the British Armed Forces were mobilized for military service. Courts offered defendants the option of enlisting to avoid imprisonment, while young offenders in borstals and adult prisoners were granted early release for their service. Though government officials publicly claimed criminals were unfit for service, and prisoners were viewed as lacking "the sense of duty that encouraged other men to enlist", the recruitment of prisoners was a military necessity, and prisoners were reportedly sought out for their violent nature and to ease the cost of the prison system in wartime.[7]

The period of military rearmament preceding World War II caused renewed interest in the concept of penal military units. In May 1935 the German Wehrmacht instituted a new policy under German conscription law that stated soldiers who were deemed disruptive to military discipline but were otherwise "worthy of service" would be sent to military penal units. Criminals were also conscripted into penal units in exchange for lighter sentences or as a form of stay of execution.[8] These units, referred to as "special departments" or the generic term Strafbataillon, were overseen by the German military police. Prior to World War II, there were nine Strafbataillone within the Wehrmacht. The primary role of a Strafbataillon was to provide front line support. As the war progressed, the size of Strafbataillon companies dramatically increased in size due to changes in German military policy. Under such policies, any soldier who had a death sentence (for retreat) commuted was automatically reassigned to penal units, greatly increasing the number of soldiers available to the Strafbataillon.

The effectiveness of Strafbataillone were mixed. The combination of criminals, political prisoners, and undisciplined soldiers that made up a Strafbataillon often required harsh measures to be imposed for unit cohesion to be maintained. Strafbataillone were often ordered to undertake high risk missions on the front line, with soldiers being coached to regain their lost honor by fighting.[9] Certain penal military units, such as the 36th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS, gained a reputation as being brutal towards civilian populations and prisoners of war, and were employed as anti-partisan troops due to the antiestéticar they inspired.[10][11][12] Other units, most notably the 999th Light Afrika Division, suffered from poor jovenlandesale and saw soldiers desert the Wehrmacht to join resistance groups.[13]

***owing Operation Barbarossa and the entry of the Soviet Union into World War II, the Red Army began to seriously consider the implementation of penal military units. These efforts resulted in the creation of Shtrafbat, penal military units composed of sentenced soldiers, political prisoners, and others deemed to be expendable. A large number of Red Army soldiers who retreated without orders during the initial German invasion were reorganized into rudimentary penal units, the precursors to dedicated Shtrafbat. The Shtrafbat were greatly increased in number by Joseph Stalin in July 1942 via Order No. 227 (Директива Ставки ВГК №227). Order No. 227 was a desperate effort to re-instill discipline after the panicked routs of the first year of combat with Germany. The order—popularized as the "Not one step back!" (Ни шагу назад!, Ni shagu nazad!) Order—introduced severe punishments, including summary execution, for unauthorized retreats.[14][15]

During the Chinese Civil War, between 1945 and 1949, the National Revolutionary Army (NRA) was known to have fielded penal battalions. Made up of deserters and those accused of cowardice, these penal battalions were given dangerous tasks such as scouting ahead of the main forces to check for ambushes, crossing rivers and torrents to see whether they were fordable, and traversing unmapped minefields.[16]

In the United States, the United States Armed Forces historically fielded penal units and permitted the enlistment of prisoners. During the American Civil War, the Union permitted Galvanized Yankees, Confederate prisoners of war who swore allegiance to the Union, into their ranks in penal units from 1862 to around 1866. During World War II, prisoners were permitted to provide to the war effort, and in 1942, it was reported that several prisoners had offered to enlist in the military to fight in the war, with some even receiving training ahead of enlistment, though no penal units are known to have been formed in the U.S. military.[17]

Well into the 20th century, U.S. courts offered defendants the choice between enlistment and prison, a practice that continued through both world wars and the Korean War until at least the Vietnam War; reportedly, this was how R. Lee Ermey, a U.S. Marine Corps staff sergeant and drill instructor known for his acting role in the 1987 film Full Metal Jacket, enlisted as a 17-year-old delinquent in 1961.[18] However, convicts were not placed in separate penal units, and the practice was entirely up to the judge with the military having the option to reject the defendant.[19][20] Presently, all branches of the U.S. military forbid the acceptance of convicts, both after sentencing and as an alternative to imprisonment (except the U.S. Navy, which does not have specific prohibitions but still strongly discourages it as a protocol),[20] and do not maintain any penal formations, though ex-convicts with felony priors are still permitted with a proper felony waiver.[21][22] In 2021, the Florida Legislature proposed a bill that would formally permit first-time offenders 25-years-old or younger to enlist instead of facing imprisonment, though it did not pass.[19][23]

In the modern day, the practice of fielding penal military units has largely stopped, with most militaries discouraging or outright prohibiting the acceptance of convicts, though some militaries accept ex-convicts provided they fulfill certain requirements, such as having a proper waiver. For example, a U.S. military recruiter told The Daily Beast in 2018 that recruitment candidates can have "one non-violent felony as an adult", and that "some of the best and most capable candidates we get require a waiver".[21] However, though rare, the practice of accepting convicts into armed forces has continued or been made permissible in some jurisdictions and situations. During the Russian invasion of Ukraine, for instance, the Armed Forces of Ukraine permitted the recruitment of Ukrainian prisoners with prior combat experience,[24] and Russian private military company Wagner Group began hiring Russian inmates to fill their ranks.[25][26][27]

Yo ya soy mujer así que en ese caso espero no ir, y mi cambio de sesso no se relacionaría con un fraude de ley por evitar una futura guerra que yo a día de hoy no tenía la más remota idea de que iba a suceder.

Si aún así nos obligasen a ir a las neo mujeres y voy a morir sí o sí me liaría a tiros contra mí bando para perjudicar al país que me ha discriminado durante tanto tiempo y para aumentar las probabilidades de que maten al poco agradable del presidente que nos haya metido en esa guerra, sea el actual o cualquiera que venga después.

Es de traca que movilicen a civiles. Puedo entender la defensa de tu ciudad siempre en un segundo plano, pero que te envíen obligado al frente es totalmente injusto.
Y mas sabiendo que los hijos de alguno, van a estar bien protegidos.
Y sino que con 55 años me dejen jubilarme como a los militares. Lo disimulan llamándolo reserva.

Según el artículo 8 del Real Decreto 340/2023, de 3 de mayo, por el que se aprueba la provisión de plazas de las Fuerzas Armadas y de la Escala de Oficiales de la Guardia Civil para el año 2023, el orden de llamamiento de los civiles se basa en los siguientes criterios:

- La edad, siendo preferentes los más jóvenes.
- La aptitud física, psíquica y técnica, valorada mediante pruebas específicas.
- La formación académica y profesional, teniendo en cuenta las titulaciones y los cursos realizados.
- La experiencia laboral relacionada con el puesto de trabajo a desempeñar.
- El conocimiento de idiomas extranjeros, especialmente el inglés.
- La disponibilidad geográfica y temporal.

No me imagino algo mejor a que sean tus labios, aquellos que me digan adiós

Bailando hasta que todo acabe

Yo el primero al frente, para morir por el progresismo, el globalismo y la agenda 2030.

Primero; si estas en guerra se aplican otras leyes, cuestión es hasta cuando vamos a ser ganado para el sacrificio.
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Sacar el arma, cargarla y comenzar a cantar "Booooteeeee" como los camareros cada vez que me haga con munición y algún arma de quien venga a molestarme/reclutar me/fisgonear en mi finca en nombre del Estado o eso que llaman Ley.

¿Guerra contra quién? Según quién fuera, posiblemente me pasaría al enemigo si pudiera.
O que me fusilen. Si voy a tener que morir (para eso te reclutarían, para reducir población), por lo menos, que no sirva de ariete a los gaies y feministas que nos gobiernan. Que se queden sin soldados.

No se puede decir lo que uno piensa.

Pero se a uno lo llaman, que alguien "magno" vaya al cielo. O al infierno. El mejor servicio dado. Por supuesto, tambien a los perros del "magno". Por perros.

Clownrona World dijo:

Yo ya soy mujer así que en ese caso espero no ir, y mi cambio de sesso no se relacionaría con un fraude de ley por evitar una futura guerra que yo a día de hoy no tenía la más remota idea de que iba a suceder.

Si aún así nos obligasen a ir a las neo mujeres y voy a morir sí o sí me liaría a tiros contra mí bando para perjudicar al país que me ha discriminado durante tanto tiempo y para aumentar las probabilidades de que maten al poco agradable del presidente que nos haya metido en esa guerra, sea el actual o cualquiera que venga después.

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Tu irías la primera, cariño . De todas formas si hay una tercera guerra mundial, nadie necesitaría ir a ningún sitio. Me parece a mí que con las armas que tienen las potencias, esa guerra dura poco.

Yo iría sin dudarlo y una vez allí me cargaría a todo mi pelotón.