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El cortito pareces tu. Por esa regla de tres ahora mismo creo el KiloByteCoin y valdrá 1 KBTE = 8000 BTC.. y que decir a quien se le ocurra hacer una con el nombre de Zettabyte...

El razonamiento de la tras*ición entre monedas es aplicable a todas, no solo a BTE. Y ya está pasando con LTC. Pero lo del nombre es un sinsentido.

Y, por cierto, BTE precisamente si es un clon, es igual que bitcoin, solo cambia el nombre.

jeje. si es tan fácil venga, machote, crea la MegaCoin :XX: Lo que pasa es que tú ni sabrías ni por dónde empezar y te tienes que contentar con linchar todas las cryptomonedas que salen.

Sigues sin entender qye el nombre 1 byte, al igual que el nombre de las cryptomendas, es una CONVENCIÓN , es decir que 8 bits sean byte es una fruta CONVENCIÓN, se podría haber elegido 8 bits = un escronchant o 8 bits = glanglandian u 8 bits = 1 corticole... :XX: Es el mercado quien hace efectivo el precio y justifica el valor de esta convención, y ya te explicado varias veces un esceanario que soportaría este valor. :rolleyes:

Un clone que suponga el clonado de una estrucutra de información es una copia EXACTA, únicamente distinguble por su dirección en almacenamiento , generlmanete un hash unívoco. Lo que procede en el ámbito bitcoin son "forks". Tío, si no sabes de lo que hablas es mejor que te calles.

En fin, supongo que son conceptos demasiado abstractos donde es fácil patinar. Lo que no es excusa es hablar sin tener nipu, pero allá cada cuál :rolleye:
 
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La falacia de los "mishoneh" de sitios web que aceptan bitcoños como pago.

En https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Trade hay una lista de supuestas empresas que "aceptan" bitcoins, dando a entender que se pueden adquirir bienes y servicios a cambio de estampillas electrónicas... pero la realidad es la mayoría aceptan solo donaciones, es decir, te los puedes gastar si no esperas nada a cambio :tragatochos:. De pagos nasti de plasti.

Algunos ejemplos:

Dark Stone Bromelias Practice Center

La mayoría de las webs de la lista han dejado de aceptar pagos en bitocoin (si alguna vez realmente lo hicieron), coomo se desprende de la ausencia total del término "bitcoin" en ninguna de sus páginas:

((Firehouse BBQ and fine foods.))) Some of the Best food on the planet ...
BB Napoli :: Bed and Breakfast :: B & B Centro :: Prezzi e promozioni
Apartments for rent in Rio de Janeiro, Copacabana - Brazil

No se dejen comer la oreja con cantos de sirenas sobre el supuesto número creciente de negocios que aceptan bitcoin como pago, COMPRUEBEN si es cierto o les están tomando el pelo.
 
¿He dicho yo que sea comercio?

Primero te montas tus películas y luego discutes contigo mismo. :bla:

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Ya hay casas de apuestas y de póker en BTC. En USA tienen ya bastante fuerza, por la legislación actual.

Podrías aportarme unos links? Gracias!
 
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https://www.google.es/search?q=btc+poker

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Y luego un par de sitios donde te regalan servicios a cambio de chapas:

https://www.namecheap.com/support/payment-options/bitcoin.aspx

Pay Another Way:*Bitcoin — Blog — WordPress.com

Y por rescatar algo del hilo anterior... unos locos que cambian comida por chapas...

https://www.foodler.com/user/Bitcoin.do
 
jeje. si es tan fácil venga, machote, crea la MegaCoin :XX: Lo que pasa es que tú ni sabrías ni por dónde empezar y te tienes que contentar con linchar todas las cryptomonedas que salen.

Sigues sin entender qye el nombre 1 byte, al igual que el nombre de las cryptomendas, es una CONVENCIÓN , es decir que 8 bits sean byte es una fruta CONVENCIÓN, se podría haber elegido 8 bits = un escronchant o 8 bits = glanglandian u 8 bits = 1 corticole... :XX: Es el mercado quien hace efectivo el precio y justifica el valor de esta convención, y ya te explicado varias veces un esceanario que soportaría este valor. :rolleyes:

Un clone que suponga el clonado de una estrucutra de información es una copia EXACTA, únicamente distinguble por su dirección en almacenamiento , generlmanete un hash unívoco. Lo que procede en el ámbito bitcoin son "forks". Tío, si no sabes de lo que hablas es mejor que te calles.

En fin, supongo que son conceptos demasiado abstractos donde es fácil patinar. Lo que no es excusa es hablar sin tener nipu, pero allá cada cuál :rolleye:

Es fácil para una persona con conocimiento informáticos avanzados. Apuesto lo que quieras que en los próximos meses van a salir monedas como setas.

Claro que 1 byte = 8 bits, pero que huevones tiene que ver eso con el valor de unas monedas?????? ES SOLO UN NOMBRE, podría haberle puesto platanocoin, pero eligió bytecoin porque le dio la gana, no por la tontería de 1 BTE = 8 BTC.

Con tu mismo razonamiento KiloCoin valdría 1000 veces más que GramoCoin no? :XX:

Algún enlace donde sostengan esa estupidez o te la has inventado tu solito?

No me refiero a clon en su significado estricto, lo que quiero decir es que no ofrece ninguna diferencia con respecto a Bitcoin.
 
Es fácil para una persona con conocimiento informáticos avanzados. Apuesto lo que quieras que en los próximos meses van a salir monedas como setas.

Claro que 1 byte = 8 bits, pero que huevones tiene que ver eso con el valor de unas monedas?????? ES SOLO UN NOMBRE, podría haberle puesto platanocoin, pero eligió bytecoin porque le dio la gana, no por la tontería de 1 BTE = 8 BTC.

Con tu mismo razonamiento KiloCoin valdría 1000 veces más que GramoCoin no? :XX:

Algún enlace donde sostengan esa estupidez o te la has inventado tu solito?

No me refiero a clon en su significado estricto, lo que quiero decir es que no ofrece ninguna diferencia con respecto a Bitcoin.


Hombre ya lo vas pillando eh? bitcoin tambien es un nombre, podría haberse llamado emoney, cashmoney, bitcurrency, cuntmoney o cualquier otra chuminada. El nombre, como el valor, es una fruta CONVENCIÓN:. Poco a poco eh? :XX:

Clonar, clone(), es una operación bien formada y definidia. Te recomiendo antes de ensuciar el hilo con tu ignorancia gañanesca que te de documentes EN EL UNICO SENTIDO QUE TIENE el clonado de un objeto y su resultado, pero tú a lo tuyo eh? :ouch:

Además no se pueden comparar magnitudes diferentes: ¿kiloCoin 1000 veces más que GramoCoin? Uffff .... Vaya empanda que llevas chaval :rolleyes:.

http://www.burbuja.info/inmobiliaria/burbuja-inmobiliaria/416020-hilo-oficial-del-bytecoin-bte.html
 
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Hombre ya lo vas pillando eh? bitcoin tambien es un nombre, podría haberse llamado emoney, cashmoney, bitcurrency, cuntmoney o cualquier otra chuminada. El nombre, como el valor, es una fruta CONVENCIÓN:. Poco a poco eh? :XX:

Clonar, clone(), es una operación bien formada y definidia. Te recomiendo antes de ensuciar el hilo con tu ignorancia gañanesca que te de documentes EN EL UNICO SENTIDO QUE TIENE el clonado de un objeto y su resultado, pero tú a lo tuyo eh? :ouch:

http://www.burbuja.info/inmobiliaria/burbuja-inmobiliaria/416020-hilo-oficial-del-bytecoin-bte.html

Además no se pueden comprar magnitudes diferentes: ¿kiloCoin 1000 veces más que GramoCoin? Uffff .... Vaya empanda que llevas chaval :rolleyes:.

QUE SI, que 1 bit = 8 bytes es una convención.

Es lo mismo bit que bitcoin o byte que bytecoin?

Pero por el nombre que se les ponga a unas monedas no hace que guarden alguna relación.

Si yo llamo a mi coche Byte y al de mi vecino Bit, el mio va a valer más?

Cuando lo venda diré: "es que como usted sabe 1 bit son 8 bytes". Y entonces el comprador: "si claro, lo pagaré 8 veces más caro porque es una convención"

Magnitudes diferentes? Kilogramo y gramo son ambas unidades de masa.
Es el mismo razonamiento que estás haciendo tú: si 1 kg = 1000 g entonces 1 KiloCoin valdría 1000 GramoCoin. Me parece que aqui hay alguien que no tiene la ESO... :D
 
QUE SI, que 1 bit = 8 bytes es una convención.

Es lo mismo bit que bitcoin o byte que bytecoin?

Pero por el nombre que se les ponga a unas monedas no hace que guarden alguna relación.

Si yo llamo a mi coche Byte y al de mi vecino Bit, el mio va a valer más?

Cuando lo venda diré: "es que como usted sabe 1 bit son 8 bytes". Y entonces el comprador: "si claro, lo pagaré 8 veces más caro porque es una convención"

Magnitudes diferentes? Kilogramo y gramo son ambas unidades de masa.
Es el mismo razonamiento que estás haciendo tú: si 1 kg = 1000 g entonces 1 KiloCoin valdría 1000 GramoCoin. Me parece que aqui hay alguien que no tiene la ESO... :D


Sin comentarios :XX:.

La LOGSE y sus estragos.

Venga, hasta otra chaval. :D
 
EL FBI TE VIGILA

Por que Mt.Gox y Bitstamp tienen " taques " DDOS y sin embargo BTC-E
no los tiene ?

RESPUESTA : PORQUE NO PIDEN VALIDACION .

El FBI necesita ssaber quien esta interesado en el BTC , asi que hace visitas periodicas desde su cuartel general .
Si son capaces de meter un bichito en las computadores de Iran
Mt.Gox esta chupao ...


U) ¿Cómo Anónimos es Bitcoin?


(U) el anonimato de Bitcoin depende de las acciones de t
que usuario
. Mientras que algunos artículos de prensa han alabado Bitco
en como
"Moneda digital ilocalizable"
11
la página "Acerca de Bitcoin" en bitcoin.org no l
anonimato ist como una característica de la
moneda.
12
Todas las tras*acciones Bitcoin se publican en línea y
Direcciones de Protocolo de Internet (IP) están vinculados a la
público
tras*acciones Bitcoin. Si un usuario no anonimizar
su dirección IP, la parte interesada puede iden
ficar la
ubicación física del individuo.

13,14
Adicionalmente, en julio de 2011 los investigadores de la ONU
iversity College Dublin,
Irlanda, demostró "los límites inherentes de anony
midad cuando se utiliza Bitcoin "mediante la realización de traseril pasiva
lisis de
diversos tipos de información Bitcoin pública, tal
s de los registros de tras*acciones y mensajes de usuarios de los sectores público y p
rivate teclas.
Los investigadores sugieren que la aplicación de la ley agenci
ES u otros servicios centralizados (como intercambiador
s o minoristas)
que tienen acceso a información menos públicas (Banco ac
contar con información o direcciones de envío) se puede conexión
t más
identificadores del mundo real a carteras Bitcoin y tras*
historias de acción.
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(U) ¿Qué pueden hacer los usuarios para aumentar el Anonimato
16,17,18,19

(U) Crear y utilizar una nueva dirección Bitcoin para cada uno de
venir pago.

(U) enrutar todo el tráfico a través de un Bitcoin List
.

(U) Combine el resto de las direcciones de Bitcoin edad en
a una nueva dirección para hacer nuevos pagos.

(U) Utilizar un servicio especializado en el blanqueo de dinero.

(U) Usar un servicio de monedero electrónico de terceros para consoli
Las direcciones de correo. Algunos servicios de terceros ofrecen la op
ción de
la creación de una billetera electrónica que permite a los usuarios CONSOLIDADOS
e muchas dirección bitcoin y almacenar y acceder fácilmente a
su
bitcoins desde cualquier dispositivo.

(U) Los individuos pueden crear clientes Bitcoin a seaml
essly aumentar el anonimato (por ejemplo, permite al usuario
elegir qué Bitcoin trata de hacer los pagos aquí para allá
m), por lo que es más fácil para el usuario sin conocimientos técnicos
s
para anonimizar sus tras*acciones Bitcoin.


http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/threatlevel/2012/05/Bitcoin-FBI.pdf

SOLO EL 1 % DE LA GENTE SABE ESTO

La gente sera pillada e ira a la carcel ...y el BTC terminara como las dollars liberty ...

La metedura de pata de Iran es antológica. Utilizaron el sistema de firmas de microsoft para colar el software y los hackers iranies se hicieron con ellos.

Era tremendamente fácil porque rompieron la cadena de confianza del software industrial, en cambio Mtgox es software libre mucho más difícil de romper aplicando estas técnicas.
 
Sin comentarios :XX:.

La LOGSE y sus estragos.

Venga, hasta otra chaval. :D

Llegados a este punto, entiendo que te has dado cuenta de las estupideces que has dicho. Ya solo te queda el insulto barato.

Tampoco se que raro le ves a que 1 kilo sean 1000 gramos, pero vamos, allá tu.
 
No quisiera ensuciar el hilo con conversaciones de besugo y sandeces varias .
Parece interesante el comportamiento estable , tendencialmente alcista de estos últimos días , creo que esta estabilidad que se ha creado en 93-95€ nos permitirá subir quizás un par de días más , hasta los 115 -118€ .
Vosotros que pensáis sobre esto ?
Y si , saldrán cientos de monedas parecidas , pero coca cola solo hay una .
 
No quisiera ensuciar el hilo con conversaciones de besugo y sandeces varias .
Parece interesante el comportamiento estable , tendencialmente alcista de estos últimos días , creo que esta estabilidad que se ha creado en 93-95€ nos permitirá subir quizás un par de días más , hasta los 115 -118€ .
Vosotros que pensáis sobre esto ?
Y si , saldrán cientos de monedas parecidas , pero coca cola solo hay una .

No ensucias el hilo ZicuManso, aportas aire fresco como cuando ventilas por las mañanas. Este hilo cada vez da más ardor de estomago con comentarios de parvulario. La moderación ni está ni se la espera.

La cotización yo la preveo como va históricamente, tendencia alcista bastante fuerte, con reventones de rueda por el camino.
 
Could Bitcoin be the money of the future? | DetlevSchlichter.com

Could Bitcoin be the money of the future?
by DETLEV SCHLICHTER on APRIL 23, 2013

The crypto-currency Bitcoin is still merely a speck on the global monetary landscape. It is young, experimental, and for all we know, it may ultimately fail to break into the monetary mainstream. However, on a conceptual level I am willing to call it a work of genius and arguably the most exciting development in the field of money for more than 130 years. Let’s say since the start of the Classical Gold Standard in 1879. Does this sound like hyperbole? Well, let me explain.

The Decline and Fall of Capitalist Money

The 20th century was, broadly speaking, a period of almost constant monetary decay. At around 1900 most economists, politicians and bankers would have correctly stated that global capitalism – an international market economy facilitating the free exchange of goods and services across political borders and thus allowing extensive human cooperation through trade – required an international, apolitical, and hard form of money. Such money was gold. It was the basis of the capitalist economy and it imposed strict discipline on all market participants. Crucially, that included governments and banks. Governments had to operate pretty much like private businesses. They had to balance their books, i.e. live within the means provided by taxation, and if they borrowed money in the marketplace their lenders were at full risk of default as no government could print money (gold) to repay loans or even meet interest payments on loans. Banks, of course, issued banknotes or bank-deposits that were not backed by gold but still used by the public as if they were money proper – these were and still are ‘money-derivatives’ – but again they did so at full risk of default as nobody could ‘print’ bank-reserves (gold again) to bail out the banks in case the public tired of the ‘derivatives’ and wanted to hold gold instead.

Over the course of the 20th century – or to be precise, from 1914 to 1971 – the monetary system was completely changed as a consequence of a number of entirely political maneuvers, all of them undermining the quality of money. Today, hard, international and apolitical money has everywhere been replaced with entirely elastic, national and politicized money, with money that central banks issue under a territorial monopoly at no cost and with no meaningful constraints on issuance, and that the central bankers use to ‘manage’ the ‘national’ economy (itself increasingly an out-of-date-concept), and to fund the state and grow the domestic banks (which, under the protection of a lender-of-last-and-first-resort, now issue unprecedented amounts of money derivatives).

Today the global monetary map resembles a patchwork of local, “nationalistic” paper monies, each of which is a political tool, often openly manipulated in an attempt to benefit the local export industry at the expense of foreign competitors or to ‘stimulate’ the ethereal concept of ‘aggregate demand’. Not surprisingly, the global economy is drowning in debt (increasingly public sector debt), suffers from a bloated financial sector and international trade tensions, and stumbles from one crisis to another, each one worse than its predecessor.

Bizarrely – but not entirely surprisingly – politicians, bankers and modern ‘enlightened’ economists now tell us that this unhinged financial system is to our benefit, really, just trust us.

Truth be told, the present monetary system is a hindrance to free trade, properly functioning markets and human cooperation across borders, and it might already be on its last leg. Yet a powerful but entirely misguided, consensus seems to have taken hold of public opinion, namely that ‘elastic’ money could be beneficial if money’s supply was only managed astutely by some clever monetary central planners.

I wrote Paper Money Collapse – The ***y of Elastic Money and the Coming Monetary Breakdown to challenge that consensus, to show that ‘elasticity’ of supply is always a negative for money. Elastic money is not needed. It is entirely superfluous. Moreover, elastic money is always disruptive. A monetary system based on an inherently elastic and constantly expanding supply of money is unstable and ultimately unsustainable. The reason why gold made such good money for thousands of years is precisely its essentially inelastic supply.

The word ‘Bitcoin’ does not even appear in my book. The reason is simply that I had not heard of Bitcoin by the time I handed in my final manuscript in early 2011. But when I learnt about Bitcoin soon afterwards I was immediately fascinated. Like many others, I could conceive of ‘internet money’ or ‘virtual money’. As I had explained in the book, money does not have to exist in physical form and the fact that most money today is electronic money poses no problem for the monetary theoretician. The problem with this type of money is not that it is immaterial but that its supply is completely elastic, and I simply could not see how money that was not based on a nature-given and strictly limited commodity could have an entirely inelastic supply. It was Bitcoin’s inelasticity by design that I saw immediately as one of its greatest strengths and its true genius.

My work rehabilitates the gold standard. It shows that it was a mistake to abandon gold as the basis of our financial system and replace it with entirely elastic state fiat money. When (not if) the present fiat money system finally ends we could and should return to gold. The only alternative I now see, at least on a purely conceptual level, is Bitcoin, or something like Bitcoin: Hard, apolitical immaterial, virtual money.

Bitcoin is cryptographic gold

By now most readers will probably have heard of Bitcoin and have some notion of what it is. But in any case, let me give you a quick run-down. The economist Nikolay Gertchev, in a blog on the Mises Institute website, explains it quite well, although Gertchev, like many other members of the “Austro-Libertarian” movement, is somewhat reserved when it comes to embracing Bitcoin. I am surprised by the extent of scepticism in that community and believe that in general it is unfounded. But first the description:

“A bitcoin is a unit of a nonmaterial virtual currency, also called crypto-currency, by the same name. (Bitcoin is a medium of exchange that only exists in the virtual world. DS) They are stored in anonymous “electronic wallets,” described by a series of about 33 letters and numbers. Bitcoins can travel from a wallet to a wallet, by means of an online peer-to-peer network tras*action. Any inter-wallet tras*fer is registered in the code of the bitcoin, so that the record of its entire tras*action history clearly identifies its owner at any single moment, thereby preventing potential ownership conflicts. Bitcoins can be further divided into increments as small as one 100 millionth of a bitcoin. The current outstanding volume of bitcoins is above 10 million and is projected to reach 21 million in the year 2140.”

“This brings us to the truly fascinating production process of the bitcoins. They are “mined” based on a pre-defined mathematical algorithm, and come in a bundle, currently of 25 units, as a reward for carrying out a large number of computational operations that aim at discovering the solution to what could be described as a randomized mathematical puzzle. The role of the algorithm is to ensure a declining progression of the overall stock of bitcoins, by halving the reward every four years. Thus, somewhere in the beginning of 2017, the reward bundle will consist of 12.5 units only. Also, the more bitcoins are produced, the harder are the randomized mathematical puzzles to be solved.”

Bitcoin is immaterial money yet strictly limited in its supply. Once 21 million units are in existence, probably in 2140, that’s it. No more Bitcoin can be issued. In fact, the supply of Bitcoin is more inelastic than the supply of gold. Also, the available supply of Bitcoin at any moment in time is substantially more tras*parent than that of gold.

If Bitcoin ever became money in its own right (how it could do so, I will discuss below), then it would be international, hard and entirely inelastic money. Like gold it also does not decay, is homogenous and (almost) perfectly divisible. Bitcoin fulfils all the requirements of good money. In the long run, gold does not have to antiestéticar fiat money, which is always suboptimal as it always is national, politicized, manipulated, unstable and inflationary money. For one thousand years, state paper monies have come and gone. Gold (and silver) stayed. Gold just has to sit still and wait for this, the latest and most audacious and arrogant, experiment with global free-floating paper money to fail, and it will come back. But now it faces, potentially, its first meaningful challenger: inelastic crypto-currency, Bitcoin.

Money of no authority

There is no central authority that issues Bitcoin and can manipulate its supply for its own gain or for any alleged ‘greater good’ of society. Positively cringe-inducing, although sometimes unintentionally funny, are the embarrassing attempts by establishment spokespeople to discredit Bitcoin on account that, unlike all that astutely managed state fiat money, Bitcoin would not constantly be losing purchasing power. In fact, just as in the case of gold, Bitcoin’s purchasing power can reasonably be expected to constantly appreciate over time.

But, so we hear the assorted ‘enlightened’ economists of the Keynesian persuasion exclaim in horror, that would miccionan we would all suffer from dreadful deflation, from which only an elite of highly-qualified government-appointed central bank bureaucrats and a well-oiled printing press can save us. Apart from the fact that these self-appointed money masters have neither proper economic theory nor the experience of a thousand years of financial history on the side of their destructive agenda, they obviously do not even comprehend how far their system of manipulated funny money has already discredited itself.

Inelastic money can satisfy ANY demand

As I have explained in Paper Money Collapse no society (not even a healthily growing one) needs a constantly expanding supply of money. Money is a unique economic good. Because it is the medium of exchange, money is the only good that is demanded exclusively for its exchange value, not for any use-value its substance (if it has a substance at all) may also have.

Nobody who has demand for money has demand for a certain quantity of paper notes, or a certain weight of gold, or a certain number of digits on a computer hard-drive. Money-users have demand for the exchange value that these items contain in exchange for other goods and service, i.e. qua being accepted by others as money. Demand for money is always demand for readily exercisable purchasing power.

Once a good is widely accepted as a medium of exchange (whether that good is gold, paper tickets, or sequences of digital ones and noughts), the public can, at any moment in time, hold precisely the amount of money – readily exercisable purchasing power – it wants to hold. If the demand for money goes up, the public will sell non-money goods for money or reduce money-outlays for non-money goods. As a result, the money-prices of non-money goods fall and the purchasing power of each monetary unit (whether gold, paper tickets, or digital code) will rise. This process satisfies – automatically, instantly and naturally – the higher demand for money. The public now holds more readily exercisable purchasing power in the form of money, not because a clever, über-prescient money producer has created new money units, but simply and much more straightforwardly, because the exchange-value of the existing money stock has increased.

Once a good is widely accepted as money, no further production of that good is required. In fact, as I also demonstrated in Paper Money Collapse, any attempt to flexibly inject money into the economy in order to ‘stabilize’ money’s purchasing power, or, as is declared policy today, to constantly debase it at an officially sanctioned rate, must not only fail in its primary objective (‘price level stability’) but must cause grave distortions in the wider economy. Furthermore, the steady secular deflation that is to be expected under inelastic money, such as gold or Bitcoin, is not only not economically disruptive, it is even beneficial. Just consider one aspect: as money will then have a moderate positive real return, people who have no knowledge of financial markets and investing, and who do not have the resources to hire professional advisors, can save by simply holding money. This is impossible in our fiat money economy of constant inflation and increasing monetary instability.

Truly international

As Bitcoin has no issuing authority it has no country of residence or origin. It is truly global money. It can be used for payment anywhere in the world without going through banking systems or foreign-exchange markets. It is undeniable that the multitude of local paper monies poses a considerable hindrance to free trade and thus the rise of living standards in large parts of the world as this system necessarily introduces an element of partial barter into international trade relations. Today’s massive foreign-exchange markets are nothing but a make-shift, a crutch to deal with the suboptimal and politically motivated arrangement of various local currencies. This market ties up capital (both financial and human) without adding any real wealth to society.

If Bitcoin were to get widely accepted – and that is still a big if – it could become a great platform for connecting potentially any two counterparties in the world in direct financial tras*actions. It is the ultimate disintermediator: no banks needed.

At this point it might be objected that it only connects people who have access to the internet or smartphones but this is obviously a rapidly shrinking barrier. On my travels in Africa last year, I found that internet access was usually more ubiquitous than bank branches. And by the way, Kenya and Tanzania already have M-Pesa, the world’s most developed mobile payment system that uses the mobile phone network to facilitate money tras*fers. These countries could easily make the tras*ition to smartphone-based payment systems without ever making the detour through clunky bank branch networks.

On the issue of tying down capital, Bitcoin wins hands-down against any other financial system, including a gold standard. Bitcoin does not require any physical storage, which naturally is always expensive. Bitcoin is monetary raw material and payment system in one. (Although, fascinatingly, the free market has already created physical Bitcoins.)

Money requires trust. We presently do not live under a gold standard but, as Jim Grant has observed so astutely, a PhD-standard, a system of flexible, state-sponsored money, managed by people like Ben Bernanke and his team at the Fed, who enjoy the privilege of implementing policies based on their own faulty monetary theories and hair-raising interpretations of economic history, while a cheap-money-addicted class of speculators plays them like a fiddle and laughs all the way to the bank. The appeal of gold has always been that it does not require the public to put trust in a ‘money elite’ but that it only has to trust gold’s creator: mother nature. With Bitcoin you only have to trust the algorithm, and as this is open software, there cannot even be a ****** agenda. Bitcoin, just like a proper gold standard, is hard, capitalist money with no politics, no Federal Open Market Committee meetings, no monetary policy, no central banking bureaucracy. It is free market money.

Common objections to Bitcoin

Given its free market and ultra-hard-currency credentials, the scepticism towards Bitcoin in parts of the Austro-Libertarian community is somewhat surprising. I think some of the objections are easily refuted. There is, first of all, the idea that Bitcoin could have many imitators, which would undermine its uniqueness and reduce its attractiveness. If Bitcoin itself cannot be inflated, what about the concept of crypto-currencies, could it be inflated by too many different currencies on offer?

This argument strikes me as weak. By all accounts Bitcoin’s design and cryptographic robustness are an exceptional accomplishment. It is not as if any hacker of medium talent could pull off something similar tomorrow. But even if he could, the argument completely underestimates first-mover advantage in the area of goods and services with substantial network effects. How many people have launched a second Facebook or a second Twitter since these inventions kicked-off the social media craze, although technologically, these inventions are much simpler than crypto-currency? – Nobody. The network effects of these goods are immense. Once they have a certain acceptance it is hard, if not impossible, for late-comers to break in. These goods and services have value for their users predominantly because others use them too, and the more people use them, the more valuable they get. There is no good for which this is truer than money – the general medium of exchange. Customized money is an oxymoron. Consequently, once a form of money is accepted, it is very difficult to take business away from it.

This antiestéticature of money is obviously a problem for Bitcoin in its fight against established state paper monies but is equally a big plus when it comes to keeping potential new entrants into the crypto-currency arena at bay. Bitcoin now dominates the market for crypto-currencies (it pretty much IS the market for crypto-currencies, in my view) and I believe that only the discovery of major flaws in Bitcoin – none seem to have surfaced in its four-year life up to now, and every day they are less likely to appear -, or if some vastly superior crypto-currency came along but I am hard-pressed to see in which aspect it could outperform Bitcoin. But just launching another crypto-currency – a Bitcoin clone – is certainly not going to put a dent into Bitcoin.

Menger and Mises would love Bitcoin

Many ‘Austrians’ get thrown off by Menger’s theory of the origin of money and Mises’ so-called ‘regression theorem’, and somewhat rashly conclude that Bitcoin can never achieve money-status because it did not originate from a non-money commodity. Mises was correct when he stated that something could only become money if it had previously, that is, before it was used by somebody as a medium of exchange in its own right for the first time, established some value in trade. For if that had not been the case, how could the first person to employ the commodity as money have any point of reference by which to assess its value and determined its exchange value for the first monetary tras*action? However, this theorem, which remains unrefuted in my view, does not apply to Bitcoin. Bitcoin can simply piggyback on established forms of money that already have exchange-value and derive its original value from them before it does, over time, establish its own value.

The same has, in fact, happened in the case of paper money. The paper notes that are used as money today did not start their ascent to widely used and generally accepted monetary assets from humble beginnings as commodities – that is, as mere paper – but started out as paper-claims on physical gold. Gold was money and the paper tickets simply a technology to tras*fer ownership of gold. When the first banknote was used it did not derive its exchange value from its paper content but from the fact that it could be exchanged for a fixed amount of gold. That was the necessary reference point – in accordance with Mises’ regression theorem. Paper money started as payment technology and as the public got used to paying with paper rather than with gold coins and gold bars, the underlying gold content could be reduced over time and ultimately the link to gold completely severed. What gives value to these paper tickets today? – The fact that the public still accepts these paper tickets in exchange for goods and services. That is all. And in fact, it is all that is needed. Any form of money –even gold, which still retains some functionality as industrial commodity or consumption good (jewellery), although that functionality is now irrelevant for its role as monetary asset – any form of money derives its money-value from the trading public and the public’s willingness to exchange the monetary asset for goods and services.

And herein lies in fact Bitcoin’s biggest challenge. However, this challenge is not of a conceptual nature. The concept of Bitcoin as money is, as I have tried to show above, extremely compelling. But Bitcoin has to offer something to the average money-user that state paper money cannot offer. Just as the banknote bestowed an instant and discernible benefit to each money-user relative to heavy gold coins, that allowed it to become a widely used medium of exchange in its own right and ultimately even operate without any link to gold, so Bitcoin has to set itself apart from fiat money and overcome fiat money’s powerful network advantage. The fact that fiat money is suboptimal in terms of its inflation characteristics and its disruptive effects on the broader economy is not something that bothers the average money user at the moment he desires to engage in monetary tras*actions, and do so as conveniently, securely and easily as possible. The state paper money system today offers easily useable ‘computer money’ and the broader public is still happy to use it. Why switch to Bitcoin?

Will Bitcoin get accepted by the wider public?

It is my impression that the community of Bitcoin users, although apparently growing strongly, is still largely composed of those who are fascinated by the technology as such and who want to be part of something new, and those who like it for ‘ideological’ reasons, i.e. those who detest state paper money or dislike the banking system. Thus, there is apparently still a big contingent of computer ‘nerds’, hackers, crypto-anarchists, anti-government libertarians and Occupy-Wall-Street-types among its user base (which is not to say that there are not many who do not fall into any of these categories). How could Bitcoin attract a broader base of money-consumers beyond these groups?

One powerful aspect is cost. Bitcoin tras*actions are free, so Bitcoin could become – or maybe it is already – the Skype of payment systems. Another attraction could simply be the usually reasonable, and with some effort potentially considerable, anonymity and untraceability that Bitcoin offers. This seems to be a hotly debated topic. On the one hand, Bitcoin is incredibly tras*parent. All tras*actions are literally in the open domain. However, each ‘user’ is only identified by his ‘address’ and the number of addresses is practically unlimited. One could use a new address for each tras*action. This may not miccionan instant untraceability from ‘the authorities’ but then again, certain techniques and add-ons, some of which are still being developed, have the potential to increase anonymity and untraceability even further. Additionally, it is possible to acquire Bitcoin for cash – rather than via the established and already regulated exchanges – and thus anonymously.

This means Bitcoin could be used, as is a frequent charge against it already, for illegal tras*actions involving drugs and guns. But people do not have to be drug or arms dealers, or even ordinary tax cheats, to appreciate a certain degree of financial privacy. As bank secrecy laws disappear everywhere and as almost all governments are waging a ‘war on cash’, by which any tras*action that involves more than just petty cash is to be moved to electronic systems within the state’s fiat money network, so that ‘the authorities’ achieve full ‘tras*parency’ as to what the citizenry is up to at any moment, there could well be a widespread demand for ‘outside’ electronic payment systems offering privacy. For example, a range of ‘activities’ exist engaging in which may not be, or not yet be, illegal but considered a major potential embarrassment to the parties involved if made public (gambling, pronography, escort services), so that many people would not want to have payment for them on their permanent records. This potential development is not lacking in irony: Our modern information society with its trends towards the ‘tras*parent citizen’ and unlimited data storage holds many threats to a free society, privacy and individual liberty. It would be fitting if countermoves to these trends emanated from the same technology.

An additional boost to Bitcoin may come straight from the crumbling state paper money infrastructure itself. The cases of Iceland and in particular Cyprus have driven home the point that ‘money in the bank’ is far from safe, and even if your deposits have survived the bank collapse and the ‘bail-in’, you may not get them out of the country any time soon as capital controls are likely be imposed. As the overstretched paper money economy staggers towards its inevitable demise, more of these instances will occur providing an additional opening for Bitcoin. To the best of my knowledge, Bitcoins cannot be confiscated and Bitcoin accounts cannot be frozen Additionally, you store Bitcoin yourself rather than put them into a fractional-reserve bank that would conveniently use them as ‘reserves’ for its own ‘money derivative’ production.

What are Bitcoins worth?

I agree with Jon Matonis that nobody can give a reasonable answer but that the outcome is probably binary: Either Bitcoin ultimately fails and the individual Bitcoins end up worthless. Or Bitcoin takes off and Bitcoins are worth hundreds of thousands of paper dollars, paper yen, paper euros, or paper pounds. Maybe more. Those who buy Bitcoin as a speculative investment should consider it an option on the future success of the crypto-currency. At time of writing, Bitcoins are trading at $127 and £83 at Bitcoin-exchange Mt. Gox.

On a personal note, my biggest ‘liquid’ asset continues to be physical gold. As I explained on numerous occasions, I consider gold to be the essential self-defense asset in the ongoing paper money crisis. Gold is not being used presently by the wider public as a medium of exchange either but its two-thousand-plus year history as global money means that it retains monetary asset status and that its historic function as a liquid and lasting store of value – a function that fiat money cannot fulfil – remains unrivalled. By comparison, the brand-new crypto-currency Bitcoin has to first earn its stripes as a monetary asset by proving itself as a ‘common’ medium of exchange. That is why I view Bitcoin very differently from gold, although the attraction of both has its origin in the demise of entirely elastic, politicized state fiat money. I will certainly continue to ***ow the Bitcoin revolution with interest and sympathy.

In the meantime, the debasement of paper money continues.


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Bitcoin, un paso por delante en el futuro de la especulación...

Me pregunto si estas cosas pasarán más a menudo en el futuro. Está claro que quien colara ese twit pudo agenciarse acciones baratas. Un negocio muy muy lucrativo :pienso:
 
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