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Hay una campaña entre los neocon para desprestigiar al creciente movimiento libertario en USA, sobretodo a través de criticar su postura en contra de la guerra, normalmente igualandolos con la extrema izquierda, por su coincidencia en este tema.
Pero ahora, los demócratas tb se están empezando a poner nerviosos y empiezan a atacarlos. El último escrito sobre el tema de Daily kos no tiene desperdicio, es muy agresivo, y es un intento descarado de radicalizar a sus bases, dividir y crear bandos.
Daily Kos: Think the Teabaggers Are Crazy Now? *Just Wait.
Think the Teabaggers Are Crazy Now? Just Wait.
by thereisnospoon
Tue Sep 15, 2009 at 11:42:56 AM PDT
Perhaps the most simulataneously amusing and terrifying thing about the crazed 9/12 protests and the erstwhile August townhall eruptions in the midst of the healthcare debate is just that: that they come at the heart of a debate over, of all things, healthcare.
It seems an odd choice for such an outpouring of vituperative fury. While Republican leaders like Jim DeMint understand that if they lose on healthcare, they lose everything as a grateful nation largely unaware of alternatives to our death-for-profits system realizes that there really is another way, most of the GOP base doesn't actually understand the stakes.
thereisnospoon's diary :: ::
There is nothing overtly inherent to the healthcare legislation being proposed that strikes at much that is counter to any but the most libertarian, Randian core of the GOP base--a leg of the GOP stool largely ignored and left to wither under the Bush Administration's peculiar institutional policies. Healthcare is an issue that applies to everyone; everyone is suffering as premiums increase and coverage declines; minorities, specific industries, and specific long-demonized Democratic constituencies are not openly and particularly targeted for benefits by the legislation being discussed. And as Medicare, Medicaid, the VA and other programs make clear, it's not as if it's even remotely novel in Americans politics (to say nothing of the industrialized world) to increase intervention and regulation in a market that has so drastically failed the American people.
The great irony of our current situation is that, from a popular and political standpoint--ignoring for a moment the impact of industry money on legislators themselves--of all the major crises left to address by the Obama Administration, healthcare is actually the most benign, the most devoid of hot-button social issues.
And indeed, President Obama and the Democratic Party have gone to great lengths to remove these heated issues from the healthcare debate, in no small part by explicitly denying coverage for such controversial individuals as undocumented immigrants or those needing abortions. Keep in mind that it was coverage of undocumented immigrants that provoked the sublimated racist hysteria of GOP back-bencher Joe Wilson to find its voice in an unprecedented way on the House floor, even as the President went out of his way to deliver the right side of aisle everything it wanted on those fronts.
With the wingnut chiliastic volume ratcheted up to 11 on such a relatively benign issue with a persistently bipartisan-oriented President, one can only wonder: where do we go from here? Some kind of healthcare legislation is going to pass, with or without a public option. The healthcare debate will be over, for the moment. What lies on the horizon is troubling.
Employee Free Choice Act.
Cap and Trade.
Wall St. Regulation.
Immigration Reform.
If the libertarian hysterics about parasites living off the backs of "real" workers are at a fever pitch now, how much more so will they be during the fight over unions that the Employee Free Choice Act will provide?
If the crazed anti-science, anti-UN, anti-all-things-global wing of the pink elephant parade is this far gone over rescission, what happens when we really get going on a debate over dreaded Globull Warming?
If the threat of corporate dollars and the astroturfing of big-money corporate organizations are this petrifyingly effective when it comes to Blue Cross/Blue Shield, how much more chilling will it be when the targets are Goldman Sachs and Bank of America?
And my mind can barely ponder the perfect storm of racist xenophobia that will erupt screaming from under the venting surface of the GOP base as we approach the subject of immigration reform.
We have to marginalize and ultimately ignore these people now--and that goes for everyone from top to bottom: Democratic legislators, organizational activists, traditional media figures, bloggers, and regular voters. These crazies are already taking up far too much of our valuable time, attention and discourse. And it's only going to get worse. Much, much worse.
Glenn Beck is right about one thing: this is just the beginning of the road for these people. It's only going to get more depraved, more delusional, more psychotic and more potentially violent from here.
The sooner they are ignored and forgotten, the better. Otherwise this freak show, like a train wreck in slow motion, will be all anyone can focus on, to the detriment of our body politic and of the regular Americans who voted for President Barack Hussein Obama in overwhelming numbers.
Hay una campaña entre los neocon para desprestigiar al creciente movimiento libertario en USA, sobretodo a través de criticar su postura en contra de la guerra, normalmente igualandolos con la extrema izquierda, por su coincidencia en este tema.
Pero ahora, los demócratas tb se están empezando a poner nerviosos y empiezan a atacarlos. El último escrito sobre el tema de Daily kos no tiene desperdicio, es muy agresivo, y es un intento descarado de radicalizar a sus bases, dividir y crear bandos.
Daily Kos: Think the Teabaggers Are Crazy Now? *Just Wait.
Think the Teabaggers Are Crazy Now? Just Wait.
by thereisnospoon
Tue Sep 15, 2009 at 11:42:56 AM PDT
Perhaps the most simulataneously amusing and terrifying thing about the crazed 9/12 protests and the erstwhile August townhall eruptions in the midst of the healthcare debate is just that: that they come at the heart of a debate over, of all things, healthcare.
It seems an odd choice for such an outpouring of vituperative fury. While Republican leaders like Jim DeMint understand that if they lose on healthcare, they lose everything as a grateful nation largely unaware of alternatives to our death-for-profits system realizes that there really is another way, most of the GOP base doesn't actually understand the stakes.
thereisnospoon's diary :: ::
There is nothing overtly inherent to the healthcare legislation being proposed that strikes at much that is counter to any but the most libertarian, Randian core of the GOP base--a leg of the GOP stool largely ignored and left to wither under the Bush Administration's peculiar institutional policies. Healthcare is an issue that applies to everyone; everyone is suffering as premiums increase and coverage declines; minorities, specific industries, and specific long-demonized Democratic constituencies are not openly and particularly targeted for benefits by the legislation being discussed. And as Medicare, Medicaid, the VA and other programs make clear, it's not as if it's even remotely novel in Americans politics (to say nothing of the industrialized world) to increase intervention and regulation in a market that has so drastically failed the American people.
The great irony of our current situation is that, from a popular and political standpoint--ignoring for a moment the impact of industry money on legislators themselves--of all the major crises left to address by the Obama Administration, healthcare is actually the most benign, the most devoid of hot-button social issues.
And indeed, President Obama and the Democratic Party have gone to great lengths to remove these heated issues from the healthcare debate, in no small part by explicitly denying coverage for such controversial individuals as undocumented immigrants or those needing abortions. Keep in mind that it was coverage of undocumented immigrants that provoked the sublimated racist hysteria of GOP back-bencher Joe Wilson to find its voice in an unprecedented way on the House floor, even as the President went out of his way to deliver the right side of aisle everything it wanted on those fronts.
With the wingnut chiliastic volume ratcheted up to 11 on such a relatively benign issue with a persistently bipartisan-oriented President, one can only wonder: where do we go from here? Some kind of healthcare legislation is going to pass, with or without a public option. The healthcare debate will be over, for the moment. What lies on the horizon is troubling.
Employee Free Choice Act.
Cap and Trade.
Wall St. Regulation.
Immigration Reform.
If the libertarian hysterics about parasites living off the backs of "real" workers are at a fever pitch now, how much more so will they be during the fight over unions that the Employee Free Choice Act will provide?
If the crazed anti-science, anti-UN, anti-all-things-global wing of the pink elephant parade is this far gone over rescission, what happens when we really get going on a debate over dreaded Globull Warming?
If the threat of corporate dollars and the astroturfing of big-money corporate organizations are this petrifyingly effective when it comes to Blue Cross/Blue Shield, how much more chilling will it be when the targets are Goldman Sachs and Bank of America?
And my mind can barely ponder the perfect storm of racist xenophobia that will erupt screaming from under the venting surface of the GOP base as we approach the subject of immigration reform.
We have to marginalize and ultimately ignore these people now--and that goes for everyone from top to bottom: Democratic legislators, organizational activists, traditional media figures, bloggers, and regular voters. These crazies are already taking up far too much of our valuable time, attention and discourse. And it's only going to get worse. Much, much worse.
Glenn Beck is right about one thing: this is just the beginning of the road for these people. It's only going to get more depraved, more delusional, more psychotic and more potentially violent from here.
The sooner they are ignored and forgotten, the better. Otherwise this freak show, like a train wreck in slow motion, will be all anyone can focus on, to the detriment of our body politic and of the regular Americans who voted for President Barack Hussein Obama in overwhelming numbers.
