Evidencias científicas que apoyen la idoneidad de una dieta LCHF

y luego el que no sabe leer inglés soy yo? :XX: panda de analfabestias

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y por cierto, algunos piensan que porque un estudio sea antiguo automáticamente está desfasado=no vale una miércoles y lo que dice es mentira.

A ver, pedazo de burros ilógicos y acientíficos, qué hacemos con el trabajo original de Einstein explicando el efecto fotoeléctrico, que ya tiene ya más de un siglo, ¡lo tiramos a la papelera y buscamos otra explicación y otros datos?

Válgame el señor...

Un estudio POBLACIONAL ALIMENTARIO está desfasado si es antiguo, porque NI LAS POBLACIONES SON LAS MISMAS, ni mucho menos SON IGUALES LOS ALIMENTOS.

Resulta que en la alimentación y la salud de la población inciden tantísimos factores (genéticos, raciales, sociales, relacionados con las condiciones de producción de los alimentos, etc.), que un estudio a unos nómadas de los años 20 no es extrapolable ni siquiera a los descendientes actuales de esos mismos nómadas (que ni habrán mantenido su pureza racial, ni su estilo de vida, ni su modo de alimentación), imagínese si vale pa una miércoles si se quiere extrapolar algo que sirva para otra raza, otros genes, otro clima, otro país, otro ritmo de vida, etc. etc. etc.

Y eso suponiendo que el estudio fuera fiable y no una fantasía incontrastable en la que existen individuos que consumen 30 kg de alimento al día (bueno, un poco menos, que las cantidades igual estaban "slightly overestimated"), posiblemente incluso parte de una capaña de propaganda soviética.

Efecto fotoeléctrico, dice el pájaro... como que serán lo mismo las leyes de la física que la trasposición de patrones alimentarios entre sociedades totalmente distintas.
 
Low-carbohydrate nutrition and metabolism

Low-carbohydrate nutrition and metabolism1,2,3

Eric C Westman, Richard D Feinman, John C Mavropoulos, Mary C Vernon, Jeff S Volek, James A Wortman, William S Yancy, and Stephen D Phinney

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Author Affiliations

1From the Department of Medicine, Duke University Medical Center, Durham NC (ECW, JCM, and WSY); the Department of Biochemistry, SUNY Downstate Medical Center, Brooklyn, NY (RDF); private practice, Lawrence, KS (MCV); the Human Performance Laboratory, Department of Kinesiology, University of Connecticut, Storrs, CT (JSV); the First Nations and Inuit Health Branch, Health Canada, Vancouver, Canada (JAW); the Center for Health Services Research, Durham Veterans Affairs Medical Center, Durham, NC (WSY); and the Department of Medicine (Professor Emeritus), University of California, Davis, Davis, CA (SDP)


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Abstract

The persistence of an epidemic of obesity and type 2 diabetes suggests that new nutritional strategies are needed if the epidemic is to be overcome. A promising nutritional approach suggested by this thematic review is carbohydrate restriction. Recent studies show that, under conditions of carbohydrate restriction, fuel sources shift from glucose and fatty acids to fatty acids and ketones, and that ad libitum–fed carbohydrate-restricted diets lead to appetite reduction, weight loss, and improvement in surrogate markers of cardiovascular disease.

Nutrition metabolism macronutrients glucose insulin

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INTRODUCTION

The persistence of an epidemic of obesity and type 2 diabetes suggests that new nutritional strategies are needed if the epidemic is to be overcome. A historical perspective and recent research point to some form of carbohydrate restriction as a likely candidate for a new nutritional approach, and we present a thematic review regarding carbohydrate restriction.

The examination of diets before modernization can remind us of the remarkable ability of humans to adapt to their environment and can provide a context within which to view current diets. In contrast to current Western diets, the traditional diets of many preagricultural peoples were relatively low in carbohydrate (1, 2). In North America, for example, the traditional diet of many First Nations peoples of Canada before European migration comprised fish, meat, wild plants, and berries. The change in lifestyle of several North American aboriginal populations occurred as recently as the late 1800s, and the numerous ensuing health problems were extensively documented (3-5). Whereas many aspects of lifestyle were altered with modernization, these researchers suspected that the health problems came from the change in nutrition—specifically, the introduction of sugar and flour.

In a similar manner, before the discovery of insulin, the removal of high-glycemic carbohydrates such as sugar and flour from the diets of diabetics was found to be a successful method of controlling glycosuria. An analysis of the pattern of food consumption during the more recent obesity and diabetes epidemic found that the increase in calories was almost entirely due to an increase in carbohydrate (6). Given this context, it is reasonable to postulate that diets low in carbohydrate may be as healthy as, or even healthier than, the higher-carbohydrate diets introduced into modern society only recently.

This thematic review summarizes studies involving low-carbohydrate diets (LCDs) published over the 4 y since the last comprehensive reviews of the topic (7, 8). Articles were identified by us through attendance at scientific meetings, reading of publications, reference searching, manuscript reviews, and weekly Medline searches from January 2002 to December 2006 with the use of the terms “diet,” “carbohydrate,” and “fat.”
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THEMATIC REVIEW
Definition of low-carbohydrate diet

Much of the controversy in the study of LCDs stems from a lack of a clear definition. The rationale of carbohydrate restriction is that, in response to lower glucose availability, changes in insulin and glucagon concentrations will direct the body away from fat storage and toward fat oxidation. There is a suggestion of a threshold effect, which has led to the clinical recommendation of very low concentrations of carbohydrate (<20–50 g/d) in the early stages of popular diets. This typically leads to the presence of measurable ketones in the urine and has been referred to as a very-low-carbohydrate ketogenic diet (VLCKD) or a low-carbohydrate ketogenic diet (LCKD). Potent metabolic effects are seen with such diets but, beyond the threshold response, there appears to be a continuous response to carbohydrate reduction. The nutritional intake of <200 g carbohydrate/d has been called an LCD, but most experts would not consider that to provide the metabolic changes associated with an LCKD. We suggest that LCD refers to a carbohydrate intake in the range of 50–150 g/d, which is above the level of generation of urinary ketones for most people.
Other macronutrients

Because an instruction only to restrict carbohydrate intake could theoretically create a diet containing any level of daily energy intake from protein and fat, confusion exists among researchers and the lay public about what constitutes an LCD. As early as 1980, LaRosa found that subjects ***owing an LCD do not necessarily replace the carbohydrate with either protein or fat, but that they, rather, reduce starch and sugar intake (9). Under such conditions, even though the absolute amounts of fat and protein do not increase, the percentage of fat and protein will increase. Recent research reviewed below has determined that the reduction in calorie intake is a result of appetite and hunger reduction. In this way, LCDs are also low-calorie diets that include an increase in the percentage of calories from fat and protein but not necessarily an increase in absolute amounts of fat and protein.
General physiologic principles in carbohydrate restriction

A review outlined the way in which a marked reduction in carbohydrate intake leads to a general change in metabolism from a “glucocentric” (glucose) to an “adipocentric” (ketone bodies, fatty acids) metabolism (8). The main fuel sources become fatty acids (from dietary fat and adipose stores) and ketones (from dietary fat, protein, and adipose stores) (Table 1⇓). Glucose-dependent tissues (ie, red blood cells, retina, lens, and renal medulla) receive glucose through gluconeogenesis and glycogenolysis. (Even if no dietary carbohydrate is consumed, it is estimated that 200 g glucose/d can be manufactured by the liver and kidney from dietary protein and fat.) The metabolic state experienced by a person who is ***owing an LCKD is often compared with the condition of starvation. The main similarities in metabolism between LCDs and starvation are that there is no (or little) intake of exogenous carbohydrate and that there is a shift from the use of glucose as fuel toward the use of fatty acids and ketones as fuel. Under conditions of starvation, endogenous sources (eg, muscle protein, glycogen, and fat stores) are used as energy supplies (10). However, under conditions of LCKD intake, exogenous sources of protein and fat provide energy, along with endogenous glycogen and fat stores if caloric expenditure exceeds caloric intake. Whereas the loss of lean body mass (LBM) is typical with weight loss, under certain circumstances when sufficient dietary protein is provided, an LCKD may preserve LBM even during hypoenergetic conditions of weight loss (11, 12). Under low-carbohydrate conditions, unlike those of starvation, glucose concentrations are sustained despite the lack of carbohydrate intake (13). The maintenance of glucose concentrations and the lack of breakdown of endogenous protein are important differences between starvation and very low carbohydrate intake.
 
Abro nuevo hilo sobre el tema pero sin la pretensión de que sea un hilo de discusión sino una recopilación de estudios, análisis, estadísitcas y evidencias científicas sobre la idonediad para el ser humano de una dieta alta en grasas frenta a la actual pirámide nutricional que las desaconseja.

Repito, no es un hilo para crear polémica sino para recopilar información de carácter científico y/o estadístico, a ser posible. Gracias.
¿No hay ya unos cuantos hilos donde no hacéis más que repetir lo mismo?

¿Necesitas abrir otro para volver a repetir lo mismo?
 
Si , son unos pesaos, y saben mas que toda la comunidad científico-médica. Los mismos pesaos que han promocionado todas esas miércoless de dietas que no sirven pa na mas que para jorobarse el cuerpo a largo plazo.

P.D.: manda cigotos que tenga mas peso la opinión de un iluso en forocoches que tu médico de cabecera.
 
Si , son unos pesaos, y saben mas que toda la comunidad científico-médica. Los mismos pesaos que han promocionado todas esas miércoless de dietas que no sirven pa na mas que para jorobarse el cuerpo a largo plazo.

P.D.: manda cigotos que tenga mas peso la opinión de un iluso en forocoches que tu médico de cabecera.

Aquí se cuelgan investigaciones de primer orden, mi médico de cabecera es un brujo del vudú comparado con las lecturas de especialistas que yo he hecho. Si no os gusta no entréis, es bien sencillo ¿no?
 
Venga otro , aunque es de una revista de mala gloria ...

European Journal of Clinical Nutrition - Beyond weight loss: a review of the therapeutic uses of very-low-carbohydrate (ketogenic) diets

Conclusions

Ketogenic diets are commonly considered to be a useful tool for weight control and many studies suggest that they could be more efficient than low-fat diets, although there is not concordance in the literature about their absolute effectiveness and even some doubts raised about safety. But there is a ‘****** face’ of the ketogenic diet: its broader therapeutic action. There are new and exciting scenarios about the use of ketogenic diets, as discussed in this review, in cancer, T2D, PCOS, cardiovascular and neurological diseases. Further studies are warranted to investigate more in detail the potential therapeutic mechanisms, its effectiveness and safety, and we would invite all researchers to face this challenge without prejudice.
 
Brutal! Muy buen aporte.

Si que le da un buen repaso a todas las enfermedades modernas. Me he quedado con este parrafo:

In a longer study35 obese T2D individuals were prescribed a well-formulated ketogenic diet for 56 weeks, and significant improvements in both weight loss and metabolic parameters were seen at 12 weeks and continued throughout the 56 weeks as evidenced by improvements in fasting circulating levels of glucose (−51%), total cholesterol (−29%), high-density lipoprotein–cholesterol (63%), low-density lipoprotein–cholesterol (−33%) and triglycerides (−41%).

Viene a decir que en un estudio de 56 semanas con obesos diabeticos tipo dos las bajadas de niveles de azucar en sangre, colesterol y trigliceridos, son brutales.

Pero los medicos seguiran con las pastillitas del colesterol, que como no, da mas beneficios que ordenar racionalmente la dieta de los enfermos.
 
Si que le da un buen repaso a todas las enfermedades modernas. Me he quedado con este parrafo:

In a longer study35 obese T2D individuals were prescribed a well-formulated ketogenic diet for 56 weeks, and significant improvements in both weight loss and metabolic parameters were seen at 12 weeks and continued throughout the 56 weeks as evidenced by improvements in fasting circulating levels of glucose (−51%), total cholesterol (−29%), high-density lipoprotein–cholesterol (63%), low-density lipoprotein–cholesterol (−33%) and triglycerides (−41%).

Viene a decir que en un estudio de 56 semanas con obesos diabeticos tipo dos las bajadas de niveles de azucar en sangre, colesterol y trigliceridos, son brutales.

Pero los medicos seguiran con las pastillitas del colesterol, que como no, da mas beneficios que ordenar racionalmente la dieta de los enfermos.

Sí, está totalmente en la línea del libro de Perlmutter "Cerebro de pan".
 
he puesto literalmente miles, no tengo la culpa de que los desechéis por razones ideológicas. (¿ya he dicho que el china study o los cientos de publicaciones de Campbell no han sido refutados nunca, y menos por blogueros?)

Iré poniendo más.

Pero no hay ningun estudio en el pubmed que apoye tus tesis? Anda intentalo.

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Jajajaja vaya fantasía

Pone que esos nómadas comían 20 litros de leche y entre 4,5 y 9 kg. de carne al día

AL DÍA

Jajjajajajajaja


En fin.

Además, en caso de que fuera verdad, ¿quién corazones come así? Me parece una locura, no creo que nadie defienda eso.

De verdad que pienso que el pobre Sunwukung es demorado porque vaya tela.

Dice que hay miles de estudios y siempre pone los mismos. Ademas eso no es un estudio es un panfleto.

Sugus, estudios cientificos...sabes lo que es?
 
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